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Load and unload TSR

Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:16:32 -0500

From: Joe @1203007 *1
To: Rippy @1360004 *1
Subject: Load and unload TSR

Re: Load and unload TSR

> ∩┐╜ Have you heard of the programs called MARK and RELEASE? I also have another
> ∩┐╜ set of programs from PC Mag. DOS Powertools which are supposed to do the sa
> ∩┐╜ thing, which is, I think, what you want to do.
> ∩┐╜∩┐╜∩┐╜.∩┐╜∩┐╜ Upon thinking about what you were mumbling, Rippy thought you should k
> Yes, I've got the PC Mag version floating around somewhere if anybody is
> interested.
*I* don't need them because I already have them. But it sounds like the other
guy might.

Load and unload TSR

Fri, 16 Aug 1996 05:41:36 -0500

From: Rippy @1360004 *1
To: Joe @1203007 *1
Subject: Load and unload TSR

∩┐╜∩┐╜. Regarding : Load and unload TSR .∩┐╜∩┐╜
∩┐╜∩┐╜. Reply Requested? Yes, Please Reply. .∩┐╜∩┐╜

∩┐╜∩┐╜∩┐╜∩┐╜∩┐╜. Joe was saying this to Mango...
∩┐╜ > ∩┐╜ sequent in assembly language. Sencondly, I need to know could it be
∩┐╜ > ∩┐╜ possible to have an assembly program that can mark the TSR driver before
∩┐╜ > ∩┐╜ and unload this driver without leaving this assembly program in memory?
∩┐╜ Have you heard of the programs called MARK and RELEASE? I also have another
∩┐╜ set of programs from PC Mag. DOS Powertools which are supposed to do the same
∩┐╜ thing, which is, I think, what you want to do.
∩┐╜∩┐╜∩┐╜.∩┐╜∩┐╜ Upon thinking about what you were mumbling, Rippy thought you should know:

Yes, I've got the PC Mag version floating around somewhere if anybody is
interested.

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c-- ???????

Mon, 05 Aug 1996 06:38:56 -0500

From: Joe @1203007 *1
To: Roswell @1207009 *1
Subject: c-- ???????

Re: c--

> but after that i can't assign any other values to val[?] . any thought of how
> to do this in c--/c programming ?

What is "c--", a crippled C compiler? I don't know anything about C but is
that the only tool that will do it for you?

Load and unload TSR

Mon, 05 Aug 1996 06:33:12 -0500

From: Joe @1203007 *1
To: Mango @1614064 *1
Subject: Load and unload TSR

Re: need......

> ∩┐╜ sequent in assembly language. Sencondly, I need to know could it be
> ∩┐╜ possible to have an assembly program that can mark the TSR driver before lo
> ∩┐╜ and unload this driver without leaving this assembly program in memory? I

Have you heard of the programs called MARK and RELEASE? I also have another
set of programs from PC Mag. DOS Powertools which are supposed to do the same
thing, which is, I think, what you want to do.

4DOS

Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:12:47 -0500

From: Joe @1203007 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: 4DOS

Since I was last here I installed 4DOS 5.5a on my old machine. It isn't
perfect but is light years ahead of using COMMAND.COM. A truckload of batch
utilities are built in. A better user interface if you are now using COMMAND
directly, (without Windows).

c--

Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:10:08 -0500

From: Roswell @1207009 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: c--

here's my problem folks ...

i need to do this : for x = 1 to 255
WRITE(val[x]);
where val[?] is an array of 1 to 255 with each sub == "\???" where the ??? IS
== the number of the sub .

like , val[1] = "\001"
val[2] = "\002"
.
.
.

i can do the first by doing : byte val[1] = "\001";

but after that i can't assign any other values to val[?] . any thought of how
to do this in c--/c programming ?

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need......

Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:29:14 -0500

From: Mango @1614064 *1
To: cofee @1610022 *1
Subject: need......

∩┐╜ Reason For Being: need......
∩┐╜ Requested A Reply: Yea, If You Can Find Time...

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∩┐╜ First, I would like to thank you for let me know the equivalent of escape
∩┐╜ sequent in assembly language. Sencondly, I need to know could it be
∩┐╜ possible to have an assembly program that can mark the TSR driver before load
∩┐╜ and unload this driver without leaving this assembly program in memory? I
∩┐╜ wonder how such program is done. So, I don't have to reboot my computer
∩┐╜ everytime I load some of the TSR resident and decide to run program that
∩┐╜ require alots of memory. I think it can be done. for example, a mouse
∩┐╜ driver can load and unload itself without having problem with leaving an
∩┐╜ empty space in the memory. Later...

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Well, the problem is that the mouse driver can unload ITSELF. And TSR's need
to maintain about 16 bytes of memory (well, the PSP is 256 bytes, in cases
272 bytes, plus the memblock headers, so a grand total of 304 bytes) so that
another TSR chains to the same interrupt that was loaded after them. If a
program didn't chain to its interrupt, it could totally unload. The way to
do it is to know what interrupts a TSR changed, and to see if those
interrupts still point to that TSR's memory. If not, the TSR CANNOT be
unloaded unless it can unload itself.

reply

Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:52:53 -0500

From: dragon @1415000 *1
To: cofee @1610022 *1
Subject: reply

Re: need......

> Re: need......

Even though some mouse have the option for you to unload it from memory.
You've got to do it before loading anymore TSRs, or else you won't be
able to unload it from memory even if it have that option.

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need......

Fri, 10 May 1996 22:09:43 -0500

From: cofee @1610022 *1
To: Jake the Snake @1208010 *1
Subject: need......

Re: need......

> ∩┐╜ Hi, Does anyone out there know of a goof assembly file or a program that c
> ∩┐╜ unload any specified TSR driver? I found a few program like TSRmaker but,
> ∩┐╜ requires to mark the TSR before load. This way only works only for certain
> ∩┐╜ TSR driver but not with the one that is load using "device" in config.sys.
> ∩┐╜ need a something that can remove any TSR driver, not including "HIMEM" and
> ∩┐╜ "EMM386", when I ask.
> Sorry, what you're asking is not possible. And even if it were,
> you wouldn't want to do that, because it would leave a "hole" in
> memory...which would cause all kinds of problems.
> ∩┐╜ Also, Does anyone know what is the equivalent Escap Sequent in Qbasic and

First, I would like to thank you for let me know the equivalent of escape
sequent in assembly language. Sencondly, I need to know could it be
possible to have an assembly program that can mark the TSR driver before load
and unload this driver without leaving this assembly program in memory? I
wonder how such program is done. So, I don't have to reboot my computer
everytime I load some of the TSR resident and decide to run program that
require alots of memory. I think it can be done. for example, a mouse
driver can load and unload itself without having problem with leaving an
empty space in the memory. Later...

need......

Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:09:36 -0500

From: Jake the Snake @1208010 *1
To: cofee @1610022 *1
Subject: need......

∩┐╜ Hi, Does anyone out there know of a goof assembly file or a program that can
∩┐╜ unload any specified TSR driver? I found a few program like TSRmaker but, it
∩┐╜ requires to mark the TSR before load. This way only works only for certain
∩┐╜ TSR driver but not with the one that is load using "device" in config.sys. I
∩┐╜ need a something that can remove any TSR driver, not including "HIMEM" and
∩┐╜ "EMM386", when I ask.

Sorry, what you're asking is not possible. And even if it were,
you wouldn't want to do that, because it would leave a "hole" in
memory...which would cause all kinds of problems.

∩┐╜ Also, Does anyone know what is the equivalent Escap Sequent in Qbasic and
∩┐╜ assembly language? In Qbasic the Escape Sequent is "char$(27)". thanks...

In assembly language, you'd simply print the ESC sequence to the
screen. For example:

escseq db 01Bh,'[2J$' ;ANSI escape sequence to clear scrn
; (ESC [2J)
mov ah,9 ;function 9 - print string
mov dx, offset escseq ;point DX to the escape sequence
int 21h ;call DOS services

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need......

Tue, 16 Apr 1996 01:19:54 -0500

From: cofee @1610022 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: need......

Hi, Does anyone out there know of a goof assembly file or a program that can
unload any specified TSR driver? I found a few program like TSRmaker but, it
requires to mark the TSR before load. This way only works only for certain
TSR driver but not with the one that is load using "device" in config.sys. I
need a something that can remove any TSR driver, not including "HIMEM" and
"EMM386", when I ask.
Also, Does anyone know what is the equivalent Escap Sequent in Qbasic and
assembly language? In Qbasic the Escape Sequent is "char$(27)". thanks...

Hi Sport

Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:55:53 -0600

From: Sport @1360027 *1
To: Visitor @1334100 *1
Subject: Hi Sport

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Okay, thanks... I'll try it out..
Sport

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Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:55:04 -0600

From: Sport @1360027 *1
To: Visitor @1334100 *1
Subject: .BAT Compiler wanted...

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I'm using MS-Dos v6.22..

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Hi Sport

Sat, 06 Jan 1996 13:52:18 -0600

From: Visitor @1334100 *1
To: SPORT @1360027 *1
Subject: Hi Sport

S#@> I'd like to just be ABLE to decode these to know it is possible.

Try this one. It is a date and time program custom written just for you!

-+-+--------------------------------------------------------------
n HI.COM
e100 8C C8 8E D8 BA 73 1 E8 64 0 B4 2A CD 21 8A C6 B3 2D E8 3A 0
e115 8A C2 E8 35 0 8B C1 B3 64 F6 F3 8A C4 B3 0 E8 28 0 BA 8A 1 E8
e12B 41 0 B4 2C CD 21 B3 3A 8A C5 E8 17 0 8A C1 E8 12 0 B3 20 8A
e140 C6 E8 B 0 BA 9C 1 E8 24 0 B8 0 4C CD 21 52 B2 A 32 E4 F6 F2 D
e157 30 30 8B D0 B4 2 CD 21 8A D6 CD 21 80 FB 21 7C 4 8A D3 CD 21
e16C 5A C3 B4 9 CD 21 C3 48 69 20 53 70 6F 72 74 2C 20 74 68 65 20
e181 64 61 74 65 20 69 73 20 24 20 61 6E 64 20 74 68 65 20 74 69
e195 6D 65 20 69 73 20 24 D A 24 0 0 0 0 0
rCX
A4
w
q CRC32=45240F46
-+-+--------------------------------------------------------------

Save the script between the hash marks to an ASCII file.
At the DOS prompt enter, "DEBUG < filename"
where "filename" is the name of the saved ASCII file.

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.BAT Compiler wanted...

Sat, 06 Jan 1996 13:52:17 -0600

From: Visitor @1334100 *1
To: SPORT @1360027 *1
Subject: .BAT Compiler wanted...

S#@> Yeah, I would have liked to have decoded it just to know I can, is it
S#@> possible my Debug.Exe that came with dos is Bad or is it something I'm
S#@> doing? I'd like to just be ABLE to decode these to know it is possible.

If you have MS-DOS or IBM-DOS, your copy of debug should work with
debug scripts. The first version of DR-DOS had a debug clone that
was incompatable with debug scripts!

... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.

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