AT2k Design BBS - DOS VBBS running under OS/2

Anyone here?

Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:28:16 -0600

From: Keith Wagner @1402000 *1
To: Dave Grunfelder @1717003 *1
Subject: Anyone here?

Re: Anyone here?

> Hey, it's pretty dead in this sub. Just got a DEAD MESSAGE BASE letter from
> Gene Wells.
> Anyone interested in keeping this sub alive, or should I let it die?

Yep. I noticed the same thing. Might as well let it die. It can always be
brought back if needed.

∩┐╜∩┐╜Sultan∩┐╜∩┐╜

Anyone here?

Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:49:21 -0600

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: All @1913001 *1
Subject: Anyone here?

Re: Anyone here?

> > Hey, it's pretty dead in this sub. Just got a DEAD MESSAGE BASE letter from
> > Gene Wells.
> > Anyone interested in keeping this sub alive, or should I let it die?

> I'm still lurking here to help when I can't... Been pretty dead though..
> Guess everyone now knows what they're doing, eh?? ;)

Yeah, maybe people running OS/2 are just having so few problems that
there's nothing to talk about!

There's a Fido base similar to this one, everyone there is talking
about OS/2 4. Anyone tried it yet?

Anyone here?

Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:18:41 -0600

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Dave Grunfelder @1717003 *1
Subject: Anyone here?

Re: Anyone here?

> Hey, it's pretty dead in this sub. Just got a DEAD MESSAGE BASE letter from
> Gene Wells.
> Anyone interested in keeping this sub alive, or should I let it die?

I'm still lurking here to help when I can't... Been pretty dead though..
Guess everyone now knows what they're doing, eh?? ;)

The Bogus One [Team OS/2]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net

Anyone here?

Sun, 19 Jan 1997 07:34:27 -0600

From: Dave Grunfelder @1717003 *1
To: All @ *0
Subject: Anyone here?

Hey, it's pretty dead in this sub. Just got a DEAD MESSAGE BASE letter from
Gene Wells.
Anyone interested in keeping this sub alive, or should I let it die?

King-Marshall and The Cat in the Hat [VSB]

Postings.....

Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:14:09 -0500

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> Great, thanks. While you're at it, could I have the Web Address? I
> really should have just asked for both initially, sorry :-).
www.indelible-blue.com/ib/

Now to find the time to take a look :-).

> Well, I could use my voice line when the BBS is busy, I suppose... I
> just hate to tie it up. The BBS is going to a third node within a couple
> of months, but I'm sure that the same thing will be happening then!
> That is, just as soon as I get the other machine networked and distribute
> the load a bit more evenly. Do you know much about IBM Lan 4.0? For that
> matter, do you know anything about which network cards are the best to
> get? I'm a bit in the dark still, but am slowly researching.

You could still use the third bbs line for the automation... Using the
command flags to down the third line, run your net stuff, and bring it back
up... It'd be a bit trickier... You'd have to use SIO's SU.. I think it'll
tell you if the modem's in use or not, with an error code... I think I read
that somewhere ;) As for LS 4, not really... As for net cards, I've heard

Well, currently, when I want to call out on the net, I just manually
shut down one of the BBS sessions (whichever one is available) and
then start up my Internet dialer. The method you describe isn't really
necessary for this scenario.

Just for your information, though, this is correct. I have a program
called Portal which will allow a user on one line to access the modem
on the other line, if free, and call out on it. This was very tricky
to get set up because normally, when the one channel tried to use the
modem in possession by the other BBS session, OS/2 would stop it and
display an error.

I managed to get around it by using SU; first checking if DCD was on
(to see if the other modem was in use), and if not, forcibly closing
that port. Then, the first session was free to use it.

Getting the other node to regain possession of its modem afterwards
was also a challenge. All that was necessary was to get it to
reinitialize from that session, so I did a VBBS source mod to check
for the existence of a flag (file) for each node, and if found, to
reinitialize. The end of my .bat file which calls Portal copies this
flag file into place. This took quite a bit of testing to make sure
it was working!

mixed results out of the generic, $20 a peice, net cards... If you've got the
$$$ for a namebrand, it might make life a little easier... It just depends on
which generic card you get... As for which one's to stay away from, I don't
know... You might e-mail Kim Gross and ask....

I'll probably go for the name brand cards, in that case. They can't
be THAT much more.

This whole project is on hold for now because it's going to be expensive;
OS/2 Lan Server 4.0 is over $600 alone. I may go with a simpler setup.

Postings.....

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:53:40 -0500

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> Great, thanks. While you're at it, could I have the Web Address? I
> really should have just asked for both initially, sorry :-).

www.indelible-blue.com/ib/

> Well, I could use my voice line when the BBS is busy, I suppose... I
> just hate to tie it up. The BBS is going to a third node within a couple
> of months, but I'm sure that the same thing will be happening then!
> That is, just as soon as I get the other machine networked and distribute
> the load a bit more evenly. Do you know much about IBM Lan 4.0? For that
> matter, do you know anything about which network cards are the best to
> get? I'm a bit in the dark still, but am slowly researching.

You could still use the third bbs line for the automation... Using the
command flags to down the third line, run your net stuff, and bring it back
up... It'd be a bit trickier... You'd have to use SIO's SU.. I think it'll
tell you if the modem's in use or not, with an error code... I think I read
that somewhere ;) As for LS 4, not really... As for net cards, I've heard
mixed results out of the generic, $20 a peice, net cards... If you've got the
$$$ for a namebrand, it might make life a little easier... It just depends on
which generic card you get... As for which one's to stay away from, I don't
know... You might e-mail Kim Gross and ask....

The Bogus One [VSB]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net

Postings.....

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 21:02:21 -0500

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> If you would, I'd appreciate it. Every time I need or desire to get on
> the net, both phone modems are being used by someone else! The price of
> running a BBS I suppose :-).
The address I find on their web page (can't find my reciept?!?!?), is..
Indelible Blue
3209 Gresham Lake Rd suite 135
Raleigh, NC 27615

Great, thanks. While you're at it, could I have the Web Address? I
really should have just asked for both initially, sorry :-).

As for the modems being tied up.. I used to have that problem.. I got
another line ;) That gives me 2 dialups, and one for th eInternet.. I use a
series of cmd files and flags to automate VISK, FIFTP (to get FidoNet by
ftp), and my IRC door on that line.. The bbs never comes down ;)

Well, I could use my voice line when the BBS is busy, I suppose... I
just hate to tie it up. The BBS is going to a third node within a couple
of months, but I'm sure that the same thing will be happening then!

That is, just as soon as I get the other machine networked and distribute
the load a bit more evenly. Do you know much about IBM Lan 4.0? For that
matter, do you know anything about which network cards are the best to
get? I'm a bit in the dark still, but am slowly researching.

Postings.....

Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:14:10 -0500

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> If you would, I'd appreciate it. Every time I need or desire to get on
> the net, both phone modems are being used by someone else! The price of
> running a BBS I suppose :-).

The address I find on their web page (can't find my reciept?!?!?), is..

Indelible Blue
3209 Gresham Lake Rd suite 135
Raleigh, NC 27615

As for the modems being tied up.. I used to have that problem.. I got
another line ;) That gives me 2 dialups, and one for th eInternet.. I use a
series of cmd files and flags to automate VISK, FIFTP (to get FidoNet by
ftp), and my IRC door on that line.. The bbs never comes down ;)

The Bogus One [VSB]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net

Postings.....

Mon, 12 Aug 1996 23:23:20 -0500

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> DualStor, huh? Okay, I'll look for that one. Do you know where I can get
> it? Mail order, maybe? Do you know off hand if this will work with
> a Colorado Jumbo 250 meg (internal)?
I got mine from Indelible Blue... They'r eon the net, and if you need,
I'll find their mailing address ;)

If you would, I'd appreciate it. Every time I need or desire to get on
the net, both phone modems are being used by someone else! The price of
running a BBS I suppose :-).

> I'm very interesting in hearing more about how best to network with Warp.
> Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I've got a
> 486/DX4/120 and am almost finished building a 486/DX2/66 - I'd like to
> get 'em netted together.
Peer to peer would probably be the best... If your running generic NE200
cards, the Eagle driver will work, but there's supposed to be a better one o
t.. Look at hobbes in the networking dir... Asides from that, it ought to be
asy... Famous last words ;)

I don't have the cards yet, so I suppose I'll have to find them along with
the software or drivers. I have a hobbes OS/2 CD, I think- I'll check it
for more information.

Peer to peer would probably definitely be best... I'm not ready to set up
a third machine just yet! Money is by no means limitless, unfortunately!

Postings.....

Fri, 02 Aug 1996 02:57:47 -0500

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> DualStor, huh? Okay, I'll look for that one. Do you know where I can get
> it? Mail order, maybe? Do you know off hand if this will work with
> a Colorado Jumbo 250 meg (internal)?

I got mine from Indelible Blue... They'r eon the net, and if you need,
I'll find their mailing address ;)

> I'm very interesting in hearing more about how best to network with Warp.
> Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I've got a
> 486/DX4/120 and am almost finished building a 486/DX2/66 - I'd like to
> get 'em netted together.

Peer to peer would probably be the best... If your running generic NE2000
cards, the Eagle driver will work, but there's supposed to be a better one ou
t.. Look at hobbes in the networking dir... Asides from that, it ought to be e
asy... Famous last words ;)

The Bogus One [VSB]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net

Postings.....

Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:10:57 -0500

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> Who knows how to network two systems through OS/2 Warp, and who knows
> what the best tape backup software is for OS/2 Warp?
Well, I'v enever done it myself, but I've helped others network with
Warp ;) As for the tape software.. I ran Backmaster for awhile, but i now use
DualStor, and it's much better... They also have it for the Dos/Win world, so
you can use it on everything.. It allows you delete individual volumes (if
you use it's propriatary backup, not just standard).. This is of course for a
floppy unit... For a SCSI unit, you can use anything from the free GTAR, to a
commercial prog... Though, I haven't used any of them...

DualStor, huh? Okay, I'll look for that one. Do you know where I can get
it? Mail order, maybe? Do you know off hand if this will work with
a Colorado Jumbo 250 meg (internal)?

I'm very interesting in hearing more about how best to network with Warp.
Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I've got a
486/DX4/120 and am almost finished building a 486/DX2/66 - I'd like to
get 'em netted together.

Thanks!

Postings.....

Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:42:38 -0500

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

> Who knows how to network two systems through OS/2 Warp, and who knows
> what the best tape backup software is for OS/2 Warp?

Well, I'v enever done it myself, but I've helped others network with
Warp ;) As for the tape software.. I ran Backmaster for awhile, but i now use
DualStor, and it's much better... They also have it for the Dos/Win world, so
you can use it on everything.. It allows you delete individual volumes (if
you use it's propriatary backup, not just standard).. This is of course for a
floppy unit... For a SCSI unit, you can use anything from the free GTAR, to a
commercial prog... Though, I haven't used any of them...

The Bogus One [VSB]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net

Postings.....

Sat, 27 Jul 1996 19:03:58 -0500

From: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
To: Dave Grunfelder @1717003 *1
Subject: Postings.....

Re: Postings.....

OK, I know why it's dead... You are all like me! I hit the (M)essage command,
and then the (N)ew message scan, and then (Y)es, to scan all databases. If
nothing is new, the VBBS just by-passes the sub. If there is something new,
it shows it, and then I post!
Now that you are reading this post, you, too can do this!
You have no excuses now, do you?

Nope, no excuses.

Who knows how to network two systems through OS/2 Warp, and who knows
what the best tape backup software is for OS/2 Warp?

There, Dave- I tried. :-)

Postings.....

Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:51:15 -0500

From: Dave Grunfelder @1717003 *1
To: All @ *0
Subject: Postings.....

Flow is nil. I don't run OS/2, but I want to keep this sub alive. I have been
having some problems with the @1 server these past 2 weeks, but I did get my
net packets both ways this evening. Hopefully, the problem is fixed!
Back to business... If we don't get 7 posts per week, the sub is going
to be marked DEAD. This will either close any OS/2 support, or someone will
have to start a new message base, and those subscribers subscribing here will
have to look at the area listings, and hope that sooner or later, something
will show up. We have atleast 40 nodes hooked up to this sub, right now.

OK, I know why it's dead... You are all like me! I hit the (M)essage command,
and then the (N)ew message scan, and then (Y)es, to scan all databases. If
nothing is new, the VBBS just by-passes the sub. If there is something new,
it shows it, and then I post!
Now that you are reading this post, you, too can do this!
You have no excuses now, do you?
King-Marshall and The Cat in the Hat [VSB]

Network

Wed, 12 Jun 1996 02:57:43 -0500

From: The Bogus One @1913001 *1
To: Bill Wehrkamp @1717008 *1
Subject: Network

Re: Network

> Does anyone know anything about OS/2 and networking? I'm building another
> system and want to network them together somehow... Is there something out
> there I could add to the copy of OS/2 Warp that I'm running, or would I
> need to upgrade the operating system altogether?

If it's the Warp red spined version, it doesn't have the networking
built in... If it's the blue spined Connect version, then it does... You can
use the later for a peer to peer network, with just a set of cards... If it's
the red version, you'll need to either go with Connect, or use Lantastic..
There are probably others, but that's the only one I know of ;)

The Bogus One [VSB]
TheBogusOne@homershut.idir.net