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Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:41:37 -0500

From: Dorothy James @1717008 *1
To: Outlander @1714004 *1
Subject: Similar

Re: Re: Cramping

> Sort of along a similar thread, I heard some bizarre thing that men go
> through a similar thing that women do when it's about that time of the
> month. (Maybe this would explain these headaches?) Has anyone in here
> observed anything similar?

Nah! Mine is a pain in the ass all the time
:)

Sugar

Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:38:01 -0500

From: Dorothy James @1717008 *1
To: Michelle Minden @1509003 *1
Subject: Sugar

Re: of course...

> of course the cavities might have something to do with sugar intake! :)
> My parents severely limited my sugar intake as a child, and made me
> brush and floss daily... So, presently, I have no cavities!

Welll Gabby, that depends a lot on a good dental program and visits, also gen
genetics plays am important part. I live for sugar products :)

actually...

Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:36:14 -0500

From: Dorothy James @1717008 *1
To: Michelle Minden @1509003 *1
Subject: actually...

Re: actually...

> > Does anyone know of a calcium supplement for young children? My youngest
> > (4), has refused milk and most dairy products since she was a baby. ( She
> > wouldn't even take formula after I quit nursing her)...now the dentist is
> > telling me thats why she has so many cavities. I need to find something I
> > can give her.

Her dentist should get a grip, the child probably needs flouride treatments
and vitamins with flouride. Particularly if you live in an area that does
not treat its water and you have your own well.

Check with any dietician and they can give you a list of foods high in
calcium. How about milkshakes and ice cream?

chakra

Sun, 29 Oct 1995 00:58:26 -0500

From: Angel Of Death @1416005 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: chakra

greetings!

I have written a text file, called CHAKRA, and it is perhaps the best
SELF HEALING ritual you can perform. It involves only you and your mind.
Although much of the process involves a self induced pentagram in your
sub-conscience, it is truely remarkable. It can, and WILL improve your
health, happiness, and inner strength.

Anyone who is interested in obtaining this remarkable, non-chemical
healing ritual, please let me know.

It is derived from an ancient Egyptian ritual, used to confirm the faith
in the gods of the Earth; Fire, Air, Water, and Dirt.

ANGEL OF DEATH

cramps

Sat, 07 Oct 1995 00:46:26 -0500

From: Christina V. Menza @1717008 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: cramps

Try a tea of Red cloverfor cramps
and try a tea of cornsilk for getting rid of excess water(bloating)

Re: Cramping

Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:29:36 -0500

From: Outlander @1714004 *1
To: JOANNA M UHLER @150900 *1
Subject: Re: Cramping

-=> Quoting Joanna M Uhler #8 @150900 to Blue Eyes #97 @1314014*1 <=-

JMU#> This works for the cramps which can come with a woman's period: make
JMU#> some tea and stir it with a cinnamon stick and let it soak a bit. Drink
JMU#> this and the cramps should let right up! i wish I'd heard of this years
JMU#> ago.....

Sounds like it tastes wonderful!!!!

Sort of along a similar thread, I heard some bizarre thing that men go
through a similar thing that women do when it's about that time of the
month. (Maybe this would explain these headaches?) Has anyone in here
observed anything similar?

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Calcium supplements

Thu, 07 Sep 1995 21:21:37 -0500

From: Joanna M Uhler @1509003 *1
To: Xylia @1604017 *1
Subject: Calcium supplements

Re: Calcium supplements

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> > Does anyone know of a calcium supplement for young children? My youngest
> > (4), has refused milk and most dairy products since she was a baby. ( She
> > wouldn't even take formula after I quit nursing her)...now the dentist is
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I know that Alfa-con tablets which are made from alfalfa contain calcium but
i don't know how likely it is that a young child would take them. Broccoli
gives calcium. How about putting dried milk powder in her mashed potatoes?
Also, corn tortillas made with lime water are a good source of calcium. Try
giving her low fat corn chips made out of tortillas. She should instinctively
want SOMETHING which is good for her! even if it's dry dog food.....which i
heard of some kids craving...it has bonemeal in it...

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Cramping

Thu, 07 Sep 1995 21:12:20 -0500

From: Joanna M Uhler @1509003 *1
To: blue eyes @1314014 *1
Subject: Cramping

Re: actually,

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> it goes. also, i bought a woman's multi-vitamin and have been taking that.im
> hoping this will work. if not, then taterbug told me about a chiropractic
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This works for the cramps which can come with a woman's period: make some tea
and stir it with a cinnamon stick and let it soak a bit. Drink this and the
cramps should let right up! i wish I'd heard of this years ago.....

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MEDICATION SAFETY INFO

Thu, 07 Sep 1995 21:09:11 -0500

From: Joanna M Uhler @1509003 *1
To: Tater Bug @3147 *1
Subject: MEDICATION SAFETY INFO

Re: MEDICATION SAFETY INFO

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> (PDR) which you doctor can consult for interactions and side effects of
> drugs, and which exists in both hardbound and computerized form; and
> 2) your pharmacist, who is trained and charged by law to review
> prescriptions and notify your doctor of any reason why a prescription
> should not be filled, and to advise customers on OTC medications
> similarly. He/she also relies on the PDR for this information.
> that the information contained in the PDR is not reliable, since it
> depends upon the manufacturer. The bottom line is that if ibuprofen
> causes, for example, hemolytic anemia, this fact should be listed for
> all ibuprofen, not just a few brands. Since it is not, and since this
> nightmare - a non-consumer! Then you won't need that PDR any more.
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Thankyou for this information: I have come to be sceptical of many of the
drugs foisted upon us. I do take prescribed medications from time to time but
am always reading alternative methods to get healthier results. Right now i
take a coated aspirin a day since having a heart attack july 10 plus a
vitamin E capsule, 2 bone and joint defense tablets from Barth's catalog.
These seem to truly help me with bone and joint stiffness and pain. My friend
took a natural healing class for 4 months and advised me to take 2 or 3
capsules of cayenne pepper a day with meals for lowering cholesterol and
keeping the heart on track. She said take one just before eating and it
shouldn't bother you. i bought the empty capsules at the health food store
and fill them myself with cayenne pepper (about 70 heat units).
i took a thalium treadmill test for my heart today and seemed to come
thru with flying colors! Oh, bye the bye, I gave up coffee and coffee mate
since caffiene can cause vascular spasms. I now drink Postum with some
soymilk powder in it and a little honey. I'm 62 years old. Good health to you!

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Nobel Prize

Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:25:48 -0500

From: Tater Bug @3147 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: Nobel Prize

To the person who e-mailed me demanding to know who had won the Nobel Prize
for various particle vs wave discoveries related to homeopathy:

Check out the first 30 pages of Dean Black's book _Fine Tuning_. The name
you seek and details of his findings are included there. Enjoy!

Allergy Drugs Stimulate Tumor Growth

Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:19:34 -0500

From: Tater Bug @3147 *1
To: All @ *0
Subject: Allergy Drugs Stimulate Tumor Growth

In the _Journal of the National Cancer Institute_, May 18, 1994 issue,
researchers at the Manitoba Institute for Cell Biology in Winniped,
reported that cancer tumors grew faster and larger in mice injected with
the common anti-allergy drugs loratadine, astemizole, and hydroxyzine.
The FDA stated that they were concerned over this finding, but would not
stop people from using antihistamines. Homeopaths have known for years
that antihistamines are one of the classes of drugs that produce
dysregulation systemically, and are not at all surprised to see that the
dysregulation can extend to the genome.

_Pediatrics_ publishes homeopathy study

Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:18:53 -0500

From: Tater Bug @3147 *1
To: All @ *1
Subject: _Pediatrics_ publishes homeopathy study

From the medical journal _Pediatrics_, May 5th, 1994 issue:

A randomized, double-blind clinical trial comparing homeopathic redicine
with placebo in the treatment of acute childhood diarrhea was conducted
in Leon, Nicaragua. Eighty-one children were included in the trial.
The treatment group had a statistically significant decrease in duration
of diarrhea and the number of stools per day.

HOMEOPATHIC FUNCTION DOCUMENTED IN DOUBLE-BLIND

Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:17:05 -0500

From: Tater Bug @3147 *1
To: All @ *0
Subject: HOMEOPATHIC FUNCTION DOCUMENTED IN DOUBLE-BLIND

The following is taken from Deepak Chopra, M.D.'s text _Quantum
Healing_, pages 118-120 of the original hardbound edition:

The vast difference in scale between medicine and quantum physics safely
kept the two sciences on separate ground until 1987, when a French
immunologist, Jacques Benveniste, performed an experiment that is
outrageous to all nonquantum views of the world. On the surfact, the
experiment becan innocuously. Dr. Benveniste took a common human antibody
called IgE and exposed it to certain white cells in the blood called
basophils. It is well known what happens when these two interact - the
IgE antibody clamps firmly to speciic receptor sites and waits. What it
is waiting for is an invading molecule floating by in the bloodstream
that needs to be defended against. In this case, the invader is not a
germ but an antigen, a substance that causes allergies. (Lengthy
discussion of allergic response omitted to save space.)

This sets the stage for Dr. Benveniste's experiment. He took some human
blood serum full of white cells and IgE and mixed it with a solution
prepared from goat's blood that was certain to trigger the release of
histamine. This second solution contained an anti-IgE antibody. When
the IgE and the anti-IgE hit, the reaction in the test tube went off
exactly as it would in a person with a bad allergy, and large amounts of
histamine were produced. [Typist's note: No big deal so far - perfectly
normal immune system reaction.]

Benveniste then diluted the anti-IgE tenfold and added it again - still
the same reaction. He kept on diluting, time after time, and as
before, from 40 to 60 percent continued to react. This was surprising,
because he was well past the limit where the solution should be
chemically active. He diluted the anti-IgE even more, making it a
hundred times weaker each dilution, until he knew that there was no
anti-IgE at all. His last dilution contained one part antibody to 10 to
the 120th power parts water; if written out, this number would be
expressed as 10 followed by 120 zeroes. Using a constant called
Avogadro's number, he confirmed mathematically that it was impossible
for the water to contain a single molecule of antibody. When he added
this "solution," which was not just distilled water, the histamine
reaction was set off with the same power as before.

Although his result was, in medical terms, an absurdity, Benveniste
duplicated it seventy times, and asked other research teams to repeat it
in Israel, Canada, and Italy - all came up with the same result. They
all discovered that you can trigger the immune system with an antibody
that isn't there. His results were reluctantly published in the June
1988 issue of the prestigious British journal _Nature_. Its editors
frankly declared their repugnance at the result, stating quite rightly
that "there is no physical basis" for it. The human white cells were
acting as if the anti-IgE was attaching them from everywhere when in
fact it was nowhere.

Medicine is reluctant to walk through the quantum door, even though this
experiment clearly opens it. (Lengthy discussion of homeopathy omitted
to save space.) In July 1988, a month after publishing his findings,
_Nature_ sent a team of investigators to France to view Benveniste's
experiment and clear up their disbelief. He was unable to consistently
duplicate his results in their presence; some trails worked flawlessly,
others didn't. Subsequently, _Nature_ repudiated his work, calling his
results a "delusion." A heated controversy arose that has not been
settled to date. Benveniste still stands behind his work, and his
original paper has been signed by twelve other researchers in four
countries. Since the ability of water to remember is inexplicable, its
ability to forget can hardly be held against it. These may be two sides
of the same coin.

(Typist's note: this last point is addressed admirably by Dean Black in
the opening 30 pages of his book _Fine Tuning_, which discusses in
detail the application of chaos theory to human health and health care.
It reviews systems analysis views of mechanisms of health, and raises
the point that there are far more variables in play than we would like
to admit, including the expectations of experimenters. Since many of
Dr. Chopra's patients have experienced complete disappearance of
"incurable" metastatic carcinoma after being trained in mental
techniques such as meditation, Chopra would certainly support the mind-
set of the patient as being one of the primary determining factors in
health care. The understandings involved here make the failure some of
Dr. Benveniste's experiments to replicate fully in the presence of hostile
observers quite understandable. It also makes even more clear the fact
that most of the medical community - people like Dr. Chopra excepted - does
not grasp anywhere near all the mechanisms of experimental design. The
scientific method and double-blind investigation are not refuted; it is
simply that we are only beginning to understand the mechanisms involved.)

(More typist's note: it's an interesting perspective on the mentality of
medical "science" in _this_ country, at least, to note that the discipline of
homeopathic health care is the official state health care system of Belgium,
is practiced by 56% of the medical doctors in France, and is utilized
extensively by the British royal family. God forbid that such should occur
here, not for the patient's sake, mind you, but for the catastrophic loss of
income, power, prestige, and job security that would occur in the medical
health care industry and the public found out that they have been "protected"
from health care options which are far more effective, far less damaging, and
exponentially less expensive than current practice. That would be as
horrible as letting chiropractors get away with healing people!)

Missiles & Development?

Sat, 22 Jul 1995 03:30:19 -0500

From: Uriah @1714004 *1
To: Forgiven @1714004 *1
Subject: Missiles & Development?

Re: stic missiles and develop

Hey? Your post got dumped! Can you put it up again?

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RE: MEASLES VACCINE AND I

Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:25:21 -0500

From: Tater Bug @3147 *1
To: Outlander @1714004 *1
Subject: RE: MEASLES VACCINE AND I

Re: RE: MEASLES VACCINE AND I

> Catch 22: When not taken, the human body has a helluva lot larger chance of
> developing measles then when off the antibios.
> If there is an alternative cure for Measles, please post it here! Not a
> doctor, but I would like to know! Until then, unfortunately, I have no
> choice but to give the antitoxoid to my children to build the immunity.
> BTW, isn't this a similar principle to homeopathy?

Actually your Catch 22 is not correct. Much recent research clearly
demonstrates that antibiotics cause suppression of immune function, thereby
increasing opportunity for infection.

Antitoxoid is not an issue with measles. The measles vaccine involves the
virus itself, just like the polio vaccine. Toxoids and antitoxoids are an
issue with such problems as tetanus. Tetanus is not a virus but a bacteria
which produces toxins. The body is affected by the toxic byproduct of the
bacterial infection. Antitoxoids are effective in preparing the body to
resist the effects of these toxins, but have nothing to do with protection
against contamination/infection.

Homeopathic preparations have served the same health care function
(biologically) as vaccines for 200 years, without the nasty side effects. If
you wish to research this, check out European medical journals, since
homeopathy has been suppressed in this country for nearly 70 years.