RM>> As I recall, the father grabbed a stick and was going to try to flip
  >> the snake out but as he and a few others got closer to the buggy
  >> the snake got nervous and climbed out on its own.

MP>*Most* snakes will usually try to avoid confrontation if they can.

My brothers dog was sleeping outside in the grass a few years
back and he woke up to find a rattlesnake right beside his head.
The dog just sort of lifted his head to look at the snake, no
quick or threatening movements, and the snake bit him on the face.
Fat faced dog and a big vet bill ensued...

MP>I had a black snake that was hanging around some.  I think I might have
  >accidentally scared it off and wish I had not.  I wouldn't mind having a
  >few of those around to keep the mouse and chipmunk populations in check!

Yes, I found the same thing when that snake was around. Fox Snakes
like to climb too. We find them all the time half way up a wall or a
tree going after bird's nests. It's amazing how well they manage that.
There are some horizontal round logs that help keep our log cabin
places roofs square and rigid about 7 feet off the floor, and one
time we showed up for the weekend and there was a Fox Snake wrapped
around that log over the kitchen area. I guess he found a big enough
hole to sneak in and was mouse hunting along the top of the walls.. B)

RM>> I didn't know watocs and cottonmouths were the same. I assumed one
  >> lived on dry land and the other around the water..

MP>That was a typo.  The synchronet internal editor and I sometimes don't get
  >along.  That should be water mocs and, yes, they are the same as
  >cottonmouths.  My thinking is that if you can see their white mouths you
  >are too close!  

Right, I first thought that was what you meant but I looked up watocs
since I wasn't familiar with the term, and the name is apparently used
quite a bit for general water snakes.

RM>> I was just looking online and they say we don't have any Copperheads
  >> in Ontario anymore, the Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake being our
  >> only venomous snake

MP>We used to just have three venomous snake species in Kentucky but,
  >recently, we've had another type of rattlesnake move into the SW
  >portion of the state.

The price you pay for the warmer climate?   B)

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